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everybody to be happy and safe. >> bill: kind of sums it all up for me. there have been those including dana mill bank in your paper who criticized the president saying he's exploiting children for this issue. if it's all about keeping our children safe, what's wrong with this? >> if you look at past presidents and past candidates for office, children have been used as long as campaigns have been around. you had nancy pelosi when she was sworn in was surrounded on the chamber floor by many of her grandchildren. george w. bush, when he was signing no child left behind did that in front of a school of children in ohio. you've even got ben quayle, the former congressman from arizona got into some trouble when he sent out a campaign flier with two children on it that looked like they were his daughters but it turned out he doesn't have any kids and they were his brother's children. >> bill: lindsey graham used his sister's kids as props. that's different. >> children, there's no precedent there saying children are completely off-limits in politics. i think the question here is a lot of times the
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